One partook in Elmira, On. He use to be old order mennonite and was called on and studied with for almost thirty years. Once his last kid left the farm, he then left the mennonite religion. He was excommunicated by the mennonite community. Sad thing is he and his wife are in their eighties and were hauled in to the woodshed for partaking two years in a row. They were sent home with a stack of the org's propaganda. She stopped partaking but he still does it. This time he sat third row from the front and didn't care what the goons thought. No doubt they didn't count him. Why would they? He refuses to use their bible and tries to plant seeds to the point that the elders don't even pick his hand. He hasn't done a talk in the ministry school for over a year. He says the org needs him and his wife as their mascot for this area more than he needs them.
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Memorial attendance up or down on last year?
by freddo inas per the title.
and was the one you attended at an early or late time of the evening.. any partakers?.
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The 50 Ways to Be Disfellowshipped
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
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Gone for good, you have a pm
BOC I'm laughing because that's exactly what my husband did on our last night in the hall, dropped off the key and the elder still wanted him to have it. Especially after giving a short talk in front of the co on a Thursday night Theocratic Ministry school. It was suppose to be on Korah but he decided he would do it on how important keeping the Sabbath was to many.
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The 50 Ways to Be Disfellowshipped
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
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If the elders find out that you know about them covering up a guy whom they reinstated that was still doing illegal activities, and you wanted to leave quietly, they will stalk you and sit outside your property for over four hours until you come and unlock the gates.
If you don't want to listen to them call you names like apostate and you start to walk away from them, they will df you right there on the spot. Then, the idiots will go back to the hall and talk it over with the third elder for almost nine hours (to get their time in) and then call the wife to tell the husband he has officially been df'd at midnight. At least that's what happened to us.
It doesn't stop there, after you have been df'd, the elders will go to some of your neighbours and tell them that you speak badly of them and their organisation and that your husband is dangerous, aggressive and abusive. Again, that is what happened to us. Our neighbours called us and then told us they had to tell them to never come on their properties ever again. Watchtower I know your reading this and these idiot elders that you trained are actually from Elmira, On congregation. The one elder that did this has a motherinlaw who was charged by her own two kids for sexual assault. They made sure they flew her away until the elders up here could shut the congregation up. Please tell them to clean up their own backyard before they go and stalk others. The RCMP have been notified and their letter went straight over to this elder.
These idiots had me df'd at the end of our lane as well and yet I wasn't there. I went to the co and he told them to give me a chance so I had sat thrgh six hours of a jc. It was a joke. I was publically reproved for discouraging all the young ones(who happened to all be related to the guy that we knew was doing illegal activities) from pioneering six years ago. The only thing that stopped me from getting df'd was I had taped my jc and had told them I would go public if they pull anymore bs. Bethel in Georgetown, On also got the transcript to my jc which afterwards I find out the elders made a bunch of apologies to the congregation as well as went to those they were questioning about me and apologised. We'll never get an apology. The org is a pit of rattlesnakes. Worse! At least with rattlesnakes you know when they are coming and are about to strike their deadly poison.
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I have a serious problem
by My Name is of No Consequence ini have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.
i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.
i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.
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You should go to her elders and tell them that she is not in subjection to your headship and that your boy is being trained to do the same. He is to honor the mother and the father. That is a commandment! And since when does a wife get together with an elder who is buying gifts for them. This is so wrong on so many levels. If anyone is going to buy a first car for their son, it should be the father and mother. Not another man and your wife. Tell the elders you think this guy has something for your wife and you can't trust that he might be a pedophile. Don't pedo's groom their victims with gifts first?
There's a couple not far from us who was helping out another couple's kids and the more they saw one another, the more feelings were developing until the wife of the one took off with the husband of the other. The kids want nothing to do with the religion now. Please take care of yourself and get them away from this evil cult.
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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"
by XBEHERE ina friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
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Cappytan. in our last hall of Elmira, the coordinator told the one ms to keep his education quiet while getting his millwright certificate. It took him four years to get it. Then, they used him as one of my accusers to lie and his accusation was against my husband, not me. Two months later he was made an elder at twenty-six years of age. He had just been reinstated three years earlier. If they like you and you will lick their labels for a label then your on their good side. We witnessed it!
I don't understand that when the co comes to town why he doesn't ask the elders what they do for a living and then ask why our young elder, Tom was able to be a millwright, ms and elder within four years total and all at the same time.
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I saw and heard something in a Kingdom hall I thought I would never witness!
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inwhen i was a kid i would hear religious songs on tv and start sining them... not knowing they were church songs... one day i started singing the hallelujah song (not sure the exact name of the song) my father quickly gave me a hard slap on the mouth and said if i ever sang that song again he would take his belt off and beat my butt until it was red!.
well fast forward 30 years..... the public speaker was missing today and so tv.jw>org to the rescue.... instead they decided to play the new video about the last hundred years since 1914.. instantly the hall was filled with the exact same song i was punished for!
yes a church song filled the hall for almost 5 minutes as we watch br.
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How sad their kingdom is base on all their old light that had to be removed from all their literature counters. If we dared to bring up a quote from their old literature, the elders would ask us where did we get that from, what apostate site are you on and they never said that.
Glad to see they still need their elderly ones that no one gives a shit about. The tactics this snake pit will use to win over a few.
Wake up, people!
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Canadians have no problems with bright colored socks according to Branch Rep (Zone) visit
by Quarterback inwe just had the visit of the br, winston payne from down under australia.
he was a good old mate, and he commended the brits accent over the australian.
no mention of the metero sexual suits, bright colored socks, spandex, no association with df relatives.
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Prologos, Rod Jung is an idiot!! He truly is the definition of being a label licker. One day he will board with you and be your best friend and as soon as he gets his calling into bethel, he doesn't know you. I should have known better than to go to him for help and listened to the advise of some of our friends who said climbing the corporate ladder is all he knows best.
I had called him and told him what these elders had done to us and it was him that told me that I couldn't be reproved for discouraging the young ones six years ago from pioneering. That that was not a disfellowshipping act. He told me to bring in my transcript of my judicial meeting and they would take a look at it. I did. Four months went by and I had called the service department and they said it would be at least a couple of years before they could look at it due to the stack of complaints that were sitting on their desk So I told them to put Rod on.. Then Mike in service department goes and knocks on the door which I think was the wall and told me Rod was too busy to talk to me so I called Rod's room and got him. I asked him what he was going to do with what the elders did to us and reminded him how it was him that told me to bring in my transcript and they would look at it. He then asked me my name and I told him and he had hung up on me. I couldn't even call out for twenty minutes on my phone after he had hung up.
Next thing I did was put my story on Cedars blog and Rod Jungs name was on there. Three days later I received a letter in the mail from bethel stating that because there weren't many scriptures quoted in my manuscript they couldn't use my alleged transcript as proof. They didn't have my tape recording of my jc but felt my transcript was alleged because of too few scriptures. Sadly, out of six hours of my jc meeting I counted no more than five scriptures that were read to me that evening. They didn't want to get involved. Shortly after there were talks at the hall and how the elders were sorry for any inconveniences they may have caused and how they should have done things differently. Yet, just recently we find out from one of our neighbours that these goons came to our neighbours doors telling them how aggressive, violent and abusive my husband is. Our neighbours told them to never come to their door ever again.
No one over here has anything nice to say about him and what we experienced with him is he truly only cares about his and the watchtower's good name. But what do you expect from someone who has a reputation that is linked with loving his booze.That's it! So I was right about him taking over Ken Little's job and that he's head of the branch committee here in Georgetown. The ones who told me that just got the boot out of bethel recently due to their old age. They were the ones that told me to go to Rod and then were shocked at what he did to us also.
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Disfellowshipped for Tattoos??
by Lynnie inare getting tattoos a disfellowshipping offense?
i know several jw's that have them but i always thought they were totally taboo.
what do you guys know about this?
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There was a middle aged sister who had two of them tattooed on her butt while still an active pioneer. She had bent down and a customer had noticed the one and remarked how she liked it. That's when I noticed it and after the customer left the sister told me I had better not tell anyone which I did because she was wanting her husband to be an elder so bad, she had turned into a monster overnight. I told the coordinator and he said this was definitely a matter of concern. Next assembly her and her husband had parts in the drama and two months later, he was made an elder. Both their adult kids who are married off also have tattoos from head to toe which they got while living at home.
It's not what you know but who you know. Neither one lost any privileges but were rewarded. He has no problem buying lottery tickets right in front of you. I didn't think jw's could do that.
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Disfelowshipping / Expelling
by freein2004 inthe insight book volume 1 page 788 uses matthew 5:22 and acts 10:28 as biblical support for dfing and shunning.. thoughts?
hopefully someone upload the insight book page here.
i don't have the means.. i should have said that basically the top paragraph in the insight book is supporting shunning because the israelites shunned the man of the nations and tax collectors?
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Love reading your posts, Mary. Thank you
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My wife is frightened about the end/ What to say without sounding Apostate?
by suavojr inmy wife called me at work saying she is scared after reading today's daily text.
i don't read it anymore, therefore i went online and found this.. tuesday, march 3 .
those days will be cut short.matt.
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Luke 21:8